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- On 10 Jan 1996, Chris Hall wrote:
-
- > Ross Deeley (rossdee@inhb.co.nz) wrote:
- >
- > : If it was a lot of software (say the 100 meg zip was nearly full) then it
- > : would be economical - after all how much would 100 floppies cost to put
- > : the smae amoiunt of data on? $15 may be significant in terms of the price
- > : of one game, but would not be significant for a suite of software or a
- > : profesional application.
- >
- > Zip 100megs for $15 vs. CDROM 650megs for $1. Which is more economical?
-
- A ZIP can be written to, so the user can configure the software - CDROMs
- can't.
-
- >
- > : But the cost of a CDROM AND a hard drive would be higher than an ZIP
- > : drive, and AT would want to keep the 'low-end' machine as cheap as
- > : possible. The CDROM and hard drive could be optional if the machine came
- > : with a ZIP as standard.
- >
- > Zip in bulk is about $160 vs 170MB HD (single unit) is $60 plus a 2X SCSI2
- > CDROM drive (single unit) is about $80, which equals $140. Which is cheaper?
-
- I thought AT were using Quad Speed CD's ?
- >
- >
- > : Anyway, all machines need some other form of media - whtether floppy
- > : drive or ZIP in order to get other than commercial programs, data files
- > : etc. A floppy drive is virtually useless as a backup device these days,
- > : but is still useful for transfering documents, PD software etc.
- >
- > Floppies aren't virtually useless, they ARE useless. Much of the files
- > people move these days are much larger than what floppies can hold.
-
- Well out of 454 files totalling 52 megs I have downloaded from Aminet in
- the last 4 months or so, only one file is too large to fit on a DD floppy.
- (Not that I do a lot of transfering via floppy myself, but I do copy a
- lot of stuff for club members...
-
- > The backup device needs to be optional for the user.
-
- All the existing software is on floppy, and it will be some time after
- the release of the machine before a significant amount (apart from CD32
- titles and PD CD's)
-
- If backup and transfer devices should be optional, why hasn't it happened
- with PC's - after all nearly all the software for them is now on CD, and
- the size of the software makes floppy disk distribution ridiculous, and
- PC's are in a very competitive cut throat market...
-
- > Most users will get one
- > but they can choose which one they want. If they want a Zip drive, a
- > Jazz drive, or floppy drive then let them but AT should have a CDROM and
- > hard drive as the LCD. Zip drives are nice but the distribution costs
- > for developers would be way to high. It's cheaper all the way around if
- > they use CDROMs.
-
- Its gpoing to be a while before the majority of amiga owners have CD
- drives though.
-
- > : I would like to see more ZIP drives around as it would lower the cost of
- > : the media.
- >
- > Iomega is going to have to license out the manufacturing of the media before
- > it'll ever drop and then it will take a couple of years. CDROMs are a
- > much better choice for distribution of software.
-
- What about backyard developers - the amiga is a small market with a lot
- of enthusiasts who can't afford the thousands of $ for a CD writer...
-
- >
- > : The real point is that AT are probably too 'chicken' to take on some of
- > : these innovative ideas...
- >
- > I think they will eventually see the light but I hope it doesn't take
-
- I wonder if Dr PeterK is watching this discussion?
-
- > them to long. They need to go ahead and make a clean break from floppies.
-
- They may do that with the PowerAmiga - after all since all the NDOS
- hardware banging games will break on that, theres no need to keep the
- floppy drive to load the older software. ZIP's will be cheaper then too.
-
- > I'm not sure if the 1200+ is going to have a case redesign. They need to go
-
- I think they might go for an external CDROM - after all the only ones
- small enough to fit in a low profile case like the 1200 are the ones
- designed for laptops, and their generally twice the price of the standard
- ones, Using the same size case they could ditch the internal floppy so as
- to make room for standard 3.5" hard drives (quite a bit cheaper than the
- 2.5" ones, and include a SCSI controller where the CDROM plugs in, (along
- with ZIP or any other external drive.)
-
- > ahead and turn it into a CDROM/HD machine and make the floppy an optional
- > add on. If I had a choice of a machine that had a floppy plus hard drive
- > or a CDROM plus hard drive, I would jump on the CDROM/HD one in a second.
-
- Whats wrong with CDRom + ZIP, with both hard drive and floppy as the option.
-
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